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In this episode of The Atlas Obscura Podcast, producer Johanna Mayer and Atlas Obscura associate editor Sarah Durn tell us the story of a fort in Hawaiʻi’ with two names—and how both those names preserve and erase its history.

Our podcast is an audio guide to the world’s wondrous, awe-inspiring, strange places. In under 15 minutes, we’ll take you to an incredible site, and along the way you’ll meet some fascinating people and hear their stories. Join us daily, Monday through Thursday, to explore a new wonder with cofounder Dylan Thuras and a neighborhood of Atlas Obscura reporters.

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